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Animals, Bad, and Check Yourself: 0 points 8 hours ago edited 8 hours ago The Zoophilia Problem Why would zoophilia/zoosexuality be a problem? The real problem are the bigots that discriminate furries based on their sexual orientation or perceived sexual orientation and spread lies about them. It's true furries are seen as mostly having a connection to zoophilia from an outsider perspective - even from an insider perspective, I have seen more OPEN zoophiles than anywhere outside of the community. Personally, ferals in NSFW art are just used as a way to justify bestiality in most cases. The cases where it isn't in my opinion are where there is obvious sapience (in which case it wouldn't be feral), or if it's a mythological creature such as a dragon. Actually, sapience or fantasy is irrelevant when it comes to an attraction being zoophilia or sexual acts being zoosex. if you where to fall in love with a real life dog that is more intelligent than a human and you had sex with that dog, it would still count as zoosexuality and as zoosex. Also, sapience is the ability to perceive the world. All animal sin real life are already sapient. Zoosexuals already have sex with animals that are sapient. And yes, like 50% of furries have jerked off one or more times to furry porn, and furry porn is non-human animals in sexual poses. They are suing furry porn as a legal outlet or as a more moral outlet, similar to how many pedosexuals use lolicon as a legal less immoral outlet for their urges. So, point is, you are right, many furries are closeted zoophiles and there are lots of them. Probably like 30% of furries are closeted. With the other 20% being open about it and acknowledging their orientation. In all of the communities I was part of, I kept noticing a reoccurring symbol in bios, names and roles. The Greek zeta symbol (). The day I learned what it was, I cut ties with many people who openly used it. Some of those people I considered friends, or talked to without even realising. The meaning? Do you realize how bigoted that behavior was? It is no different from a homophobe finding out that many of his friends where gay and cutting them off just for that. Zoophile. It's a way for them to discreetly tell other zoophiles that they like to fuck animals. Not necessarily, they may only like the idea of doing that but would not actually do it. I was in servers filled with primarily under-18s where several people had that symbol in their name or role on Discord. I put my foot down when you're fucking PROUD of being a zoophile. So, you are proud to be a bigot/zoophobe? That is not something to be proud of. In my opinion, if you're willing to tell the world about it, you're more of a danger than the ones who stay silent about it. Falsely assuming that zoosexuals are dangerous. And I have seen homophobes saying: "if you are openly gay, you are more dangerous than a gay who keeps it to himself." How are you any different from an stupid hateful bigot? The real dangerous person in here are the bigots like you. You discriminate people, harm people, even attack people and murder them. Bigots like you are the real danger to innocent people in society. Now, on the flip side, this is a minority. 50% is barely a minority. Something like 5 out of 200 people in a furry discord server would be zoophiles in my experience, with even less proudly displaying it (and usually they'd be banned, non-zoophile furries hate it just as much as the antifurs do) Your personal experience is anecdotal evidence, where furry surveys give more clear numbers of like 50% of furries jerking off to cartoon animal porn (aka furry porn) and 20% of them acknowledging that they are zoophiles. Zoophile furs also tend to have much weirder kinks alongside, and I've seen plenty of zoophile furs that are into cub/cp, which brings me onto my next point. All communities have weird people with weird kinks, welcome to reality. Thing is, you can use your furry persona to hide the normal you and let the real you out. Which is why furries are more open about their sexual orientations and fetishes and kinks. The Cub Problem. Cub is child porn. Well... yes and no. Child porn has real children in it. Else, it is just fake child porn that is used as a legal or less immoral substitute of the real thing. I'm sick of furries who justify it or try to say oh it's fictional or oh its a way for pedophiles to relive themselves and not hurt kids - no, fuck off. So, you are sick that they state facts? And I guess we can add pedophobe to the list of your bigotries/phobias. If you have to jack off to fictional kids to stop yourself from raping real kids, then you need to check yourself into a mental hospital ASAP since you're an actual danger. Actually, them doing that is 100% healthy. A mental hospital would not be able to help them as they would find nothing wrong with such person. You see, to actually need a mental help, you need to either suffer distress, impairment or harm others. Some pedophile jerking off to cub porn or lolicon is not harming anyone, not feeling distress and not being impaired. So why would he need help in the first place? You are no different from homophobes who say: if you have jerk off to gay porn you should be locked in a mental institute. The fictional argument is also bullshit - you shouldn't feed a kink that dangerous. Calling it bullshit doesn't magically make it bullshit. And scientific studies shows that jerking off to porn is healthy. Also, scientific studies shows that when humans can't jerk of to porn (be fake child porn, real child porn or adult porn) the rates of sexual abuse of adults and children GO UP. Do you understand why? If some one don't have porn to get off, then you only leave them one option, to rape a real child or adult to get off. Yet if you give them a legal and healthy option like lolicon or cub porn, they have 2 options, jerk off legally at home without risking his well being by doing something illegal or doing something llegal that could cost them their life or 20 year of jail. Which one would they chose? Legal safe option or illegal rape option? Obvious they chose the legal option if available. So, in reality, according to logic and scientific studies, them jerking to porn is less dangerous than them being forbidden from using porn which is very dangerous. Humans crave dopamine releases, and not many people have the willpower to cease, feeding into it will simply continue it or make it worse to the point that you do harm kids. Again, that is not how it works, not what logic tells, not what studies have concluded. I wonder how many zoophile furs were into feral yiff before trying it IRL? Sorry for my strong language, this is a very sensitive point for me. So what if they try it in real life? So what if they came to terms with their zoosexuality? Zoosex is not not bad like you probably think. Bet you have dozens of bigoted reasons for why zoosex is bad, but i ensure you, your bigoted reasons are all invalid and not based on reality. That is the problem of phobias/bigotries, they prevent you from assimilating facts in a correct way, you end up twisting facts or seeking non-facts that supports and protects your bigotry. Anyways, if you actually care about facts, let me hear your grievances again zoosex and I will educated you and prove you that they are unfounded fears. As said in my previous point, a lot of zoophile furs I've met or seen have also been proudly into cub. They call themselves 'MAPS' (minor attracted person, just a fancy name for pedophile) and also like to boast about it on their social media profiles. And? This is a definite problem in the furry community, that a lot of people like to sweep under the rug. I don't see how it is a problem. It seems is only a problem to bigoted people like you. So, int h end, you being a bigot is the real problem. Bigotry can be classified as a form of antisocial behavior or the result of mental retardation, you most likely need mental help to stop being a bigot. Though if what you have is mental retardation, there is no helping with that. This absolutely disgusts me and is why I am trying to come from a more neutral standpoint. Disgust you way more than a normal non-bigoted person. It's my #1 gripe with the fandom, and the more I see it, the less I want to associate with furries as a whole. Nobody is forcing you to associate with them. And zoosexuals and pedosexuals are on every fandom, they are everywhere. You will have to become a hermit to avoid them. Seriously, if their existence causes you so much distress, seek mental help. Reply Give Award Share Report Save Furry redditor defends zoophilia/pedophilia, claims I'm a 'pedophobe'
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 edited 8 hours ago
 The Zoophilia Problem
 Why would zoophilia/zoosexuality be a problem? The real problem are the bigots that discriminate furries based on
 their sexual orientation or perceived sexual orientation and spread lies about them.
 It's true furries are seen as mostly having a connection to zoophilia from an outsider perspective - even from an
 insider perspective, I have seen more OPEN zoophiles than anywhere outside of the community. Personally, ferals in
 NSFW art are just used as a way to justify bestiality in most cases. The cases where it isn't in my opinion are where
 there is obvious sapience (in which case it wouldn't be feral), or if it's a mythological creature such as a dragon.
 Actually, sapience or fantasy is irrelevant when it comes to an attraction being zoophilia or sexual acts being zoosex. if
 you where to fall in love with a real life dog that is more intelligent than a human and you had sex with that dog, it
 would still count as zoosexuality and as zoosex.
 Also, sapience is the ability to perceive the world. All animal sin real life are already sapient. Zoosexuals already have sex
 with animals that are sapient.
 And yes, like 50% of furries have jerked off one or more times to furry porn, and furry porn is non-human animals in
 sexual poses. They are suing furry porn as a legal outlet or as a more moral outlet, similar to how many pedosexuals use
 lolicon as a legal less immoral outlet for their urges. So, point is, you are right, many furries are closeted zoophiles and
 there are lots of them. Probably like 30% of furries are closeted. With the other 20% being open about it and
 acknowledging their orientation.
 In all of the communities I was part of, I kept noticing a reoccurring symbol in bios, names and roles. The Greek zeta
 symbol (). The day I learned what it was, I cut ties with many people who openly used it. Some of those people I
 considered friends, or talked to without even realising. The meaning?
 Do you realize how bigoted that behavior was? It is no different from a homophobe finding out that many of his friends
 where gay and cutting them off just for that.
 Zoophile. It's a way for them to discreetly tell other zoophiles that they like to fuck animals.
 Not necessarily, they may only like the idea of doing that but would not actually do it.
 I was in servers filled with primarily under-18s where several people had that symbol in their name or role on
 Discord. I put my foot down when you're fucking PROUD of being a zoophile.
 So, you are proud to be a bigot/zoophobe? That is not something to be proud of.
 In my opinion, if you're willing to tell the world about it, you're more of a danger than the ones who stay silent about
 it.
 Falsely assuming that zoosexuals are dangerous. And I have seen homophobes saying: "if you are openly gay, you are
 more dangerous than a gay who keeps it to himself."
 How are you any different from an stupid hateful bigot? The real dangerous person in here are the bigots like you. You
 discriminate people, harm people, even attack people and murder them. Bigots like you are the real danger to innocent
 people in society.
 Now, on the flip side, this is a minority.
 50% is barely a minority.
 Something like 5 out of 200 people in a furry discord server would be zoophiles in my experience, with even less
 proudly displaying it (and usually they'd be banned, non-zoophile furries hate it just as much as the antifurs do)
 Your personal experience is anecdotal evidence, where furry surveys give more clear numbers of like 50% of furries
 jerking off to cartoon animal porn (aka furry porn) and 20% of them acknowledging that they are zoophiles.
 Zoophile furs also tend to have much weirder kinks alongside, and I've seen plenty of zoophile furs that are into
 cub/cp, which brings me onto my next point.
 All communities have weird people with weird kinks, welcome to reality. Thing is, you can use your furry persona to hide
 the normal you and let the real you out. Which is why furries are more open about their sexual orientations and fetishes
 and kinks.
 The Cub Problem. Cub is child porn.
 Well... yes and no. Child porn has real children in it. Else, it is just fake child porn that is used as a legal or less immoral
 substitute of the real thing.
 I'm sick of furries who justify it or try to say oh it's fictional or oh its a way for pedophiles to relive themselves and not
 hurt kids - no, fuck off.
 So, you are sick that they state facts? And I guess we can add pedophobe to the list of your bigotries/phobias.
 If you have to jack off to fictional kids to stop yourself from raping real kids, then you need to check yourself into a
 mental hospital ASAP since you're an actual danger.
 Actually, them doing that is 100% healthy. A mental hospital would not be able to help them as they would find nothing
 wrong with such person. You see, to actually need a mental help, you need to either suffer distress, impairment or harm
 others. Some pedophile jerking off to cub porn or lolicon is not harming anyone, not feeling distress and not being
 impaired. So why would he need help in the first place? You are no different from homophobes who say: if you have jerk
 off to gay porn you should be locked in a mental institute.
 The fictional argument is also bullshit - you shouldn't feed a kink that dangerous.
 Calling it bullshit doesn't magically make it bullshit. And scientific studies shows that jerking off to porn is healthy. Also,
 scientific studies shows that when humans can't jerk of to porn (be fake child porn, real child porn or adult porn) the
 rates of sexual abuse of adults and children GO UP. Do you understand why? If some one don't have porn to get off,
 then you only leave them one option, to rape a real child or adult to get off.
 Yet if you give them a legal and healthy option like lolicon or cub porn, they have 2 options, jerk off legally at home
 without risking his well being by doing something illegal or doing something llegal that could cost them their life or 20
 year of jail. Which one would they chose? Legal safe option or illegal rape option? Obvious they chose the legal option if
 available.
 So, in reality, according to logic and scientific studies, them jerking to porn is less dangerous than them being forbidden
 from using porn which is very dangerous.
 Humans crave dopamine releases, and not many people have the willpower to cease, feeding into it will simply
 continue it or make it worse to the point that you do harm kids.
 Again, that is not how it works, not what logic tells, not what studies have concluded.
 I wonder how many zoophile furs were into feral yiff before trying it IRL? Sorry for my strong language, this is a very
 sensitive point for me.
 So what if they try it in real life? So what if they came to terms with their zoosexuality? Zoosex is not not bad like you
 probably think. Bet you have dozens of bigoted reasons for why zoosex is bad, but i ensure you, your bigoted reasons
 are all invalid and not based on reality. That is the problem of phobias/bigotries, they prevent you from assimilating
 facts in a correct way, you end up twisting facts or seeking non-facts that supports and protects your bigotry.
 Anyways, if you actually care about facts, let me hear your grievances again zoosex and I will educated you and prove
 you that they are unfounded fears.
 As said in my previous point, a lot of zoophile furs I've met or seen have also been proudly into cub. They call
 themselves 'MAPS' (minor attracted person, just a fancy name for pedophile) and also like to boast about it on their
 social media profiles.
 And?
 This is a definite problem in the furry community, that a lot of people like to sweep under the rug.
 I don't see how it is a problem. It seems is only a problem to bigoted people like you. So, int h end, you being a bigot is
 the real problem. Bigotry can be classified as a form of antisocial behavior or the result of mental retardation, you most
 likely need mental help to stop being a bigot. Though if what you have is mental retardation, there is no helping with
 that.
 This absolutely disgusts me and is why I am trying to come from a more neutral standpoint.
 Disgust you way more than a normal non-bigoted person.
 It's my #1 gripe with the fandom, and the more I see it, the less I want to associate with furries as a whole.
 Nobody is forcing you to associate with them. And zoosexuals and pedosexuals are on every fandom, they are
 everywhere. You will have to become a hermit to avoid them. Seriously, if their existence causes you so much distress,
 seek mental help.
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Furry redditor defends zoophilia/pedophilia, claims I'm a 'pedophobe'

Furry redditor defends zoophilia/pedophilia, claims I'm a 'pedophobe'

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