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    Anaconda, Be Like, and Dude: 12:03pm: hey gorgeous
 12:05pm: how are youuuu?
 12:08pm: you there?
 12:10pm: hello? Babe?
 12:13pm: HELLOOOoo
 12:16pm: fucking slut, you're ugly
 anyways
I mean at some point you need to know when not to stop shooting. If you shoot 0-9 from three, donā€™t be steph curry. Be like Hassan Whiteside in the fourth and the 4th quarter and take your seat young man. This same logic can be used with people. If itā€™s NOT working just stop. They say ā€œyou miss 100% of the shots you donā€™t takeā€ but no need to keep hoisting boulders from ya motherā€™s basement King. Patience is everything when trying to secure anything in life. I tried to teach that to my homie Martin. He ainā€™t neva had no Daddy. Boy been patient for him to come from Walmart but we know for far too many of us has waited that wait bruv never coming back. Every dude know a guy who talks about a new girl he bout to pull you know his game weak like Krillin. Iā€™m like ā€œgive it some time bro plus she light skin it takes 2 business day to generate a responseā€ She ainā€™t know he liked him but this was the first step to success. I tried to tell him be different. Donā€™t text her ā€œwydā€ call her and ask about her day girls like that shit when dudes go out they way. This boy took it to the extreme. This man called and left a good 26 voice mails-like this some type of 1990ā€™s rnb video. She ainā€™t answer his call all weekend. I was there for a few, Boy start apologizing for things he ainā€™t even do. ā€œSorry your dog died when you was younger I shoulda been thereā€. I shook my head for the real ones who got some balls to hold onto. Message after message he poured his heart out about he type of dude he was. Nigga STRAIGHT Lying through his teeth. After the 10th they were all pathetic. Have some pride bro. Nigga started getting mad and roasting her. He wrote a whole thesis telling her off. come to find out on Monday her grandfather died and she was at the funeral. This man done over shot and got her killed his chances with her. She told her brother about it. That man stretched Martin till next Tuesday. No literally he a accordion when he walks now. Pray for Martin.
    

        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
    

    

        

            
            

                
                Anaconda, Be Like, and Dude: 12:03pm: hey gorgeous
 12:05pm: how are youuuu?
 12:08pm: you there?
 12:10pm: hello? Babe?
 12:13pm: HELLOOOoo
 12:16pm: fucking slut, you're ugly
 anyways
I mean at some point you need to know when not to stop shooting. If you shoot 0-9 from three, donā€™t be steph curry. Be like Hassan Whiteside in the fourth and the 4th quarter and take your seat young man. This same logic can be used with people. If itā€™s NOT working just stop. They say ā€œyou miss 100% of the shots you donā€™t takeā€ but no need to keep hoisting boulders from ya motherā€™s basement King. Patience is everything when trying to secure anything in life. I tried to teach that to my homie Martin. He ainā€™t neva had no Daddy. Boy been patient for him to come from Walmart but we know for far too many of us has waited that wait bruv never coming back. Every dude know a guy who talks about a new girl he bout to pull you know his game weak like Krillin. Iā€™m like ā€œgive it some time bro plus she light skin it takes 2 business day to generate a responseā€ She ainā€™t know he liked him but this was the first step to success. I tried to tell him be different. Donā€™t text her ā€œwydā€ call her and ask about her day girls like that shit when dudes go out they way. This boy took it to the extreme. This man called and left a good 26 voice mails-like this some type of 1990ā€™s rnb video. She ainā€™t answer his call all weekend. I was there for a few, Boy start apologizing for things he ainā€™t even do. ā€œSorry your dog died when you was younger I shoulda been thereā€. I shook my head for the real ones who got some balls to hold onto. Message after message he poured his heart out about he type of dude he was. Nigga STRAIGHT Lying through his teeth. After the 10th they were all pathetic. Have some pride bro. Nigga started getting mad and roasting her. He wrote a whole thesis telling her off. come to find out on Monday her grandfather died and she was at the funeral. This man done over shot and got her killed his chances with her. She told her brother about it. That man stretched Martin till next Tuesday. No literally he a accordion when he walks now. Pray for Martin.
                
            

            
            
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    Adam Driver, Anaconda, and Apparently: Sean T. Collins
 Follow
 @theseantcollins
 weird that the person they went after
 from Ghostbusters was Leslie Jones.
 weird that the person they went after
 from Star Wars was Kelly Marie Tran.
 what on earth could explain this
 5:29 AM 5 Jun 2018
 7,482 Retweets 31,087 Likes
rockyrz:
libertarirynn:


siryouarebeingmocked:

grumpy-goompa:

siryouarebeingmocked:

skeleton-jack:

cookingwithroxy:

siryouarebeingmocked:

derpomatic:

siryouarebeingmocked:

theunnamedstranger:

siryouarebeingmocked:

theindependentconservative:

siryouarebeingmocked:

friendly-neighborhood-ehrhardt:

triggeredmedia:
Bad acting and bad characters?
other actors in those movies/franchises got shit from trolls too.
melissa mccarthy. hayden christiansen. jake lloyd. laura dern.
the difference is that all these media outlets didnt declare it a public crises  keep reporting on it months after it was news.
Ā in fact, jake lloyd probably got it worse than anyone, being an actual child at the time  being traumatized for years because of bullying, but no one cared at the time  now it only gets brought up as a tacked on example when talking about those awful modern star wars fans.  hes a straight white man. what on earth could explain this?
 in leslie jones case, she turned it into an internet slap fight  drew much more attention to her when before that she was getting no more shit than the other leads.
look, we should always separate the actor from their role  people who attack an actor personally for a role are scumbags, but stop injecting racism  sexism into everything  then using it as a shield against actual valid criticism.

Not to mention Adam Driver. Heā€™s still getting crapped on. People complained that he was playing a Jewish guy infiltrating the Klan in a historical Spike Lee movie, even though he isnā€™t Jewish, which is apparently Not Allowed.
These are popular franchises. If a fraction of a percent of their fans are knob-ends who harass people, that would seem overwhelming to the person on the receiving end.

Not to mention Reyā€™s a Mary Sure now and everyone called it.

You do remember that I disagree with the majority opinion, right?
Also, people were calling her a Mary Sue from the first movie. Sometimes based on things that literally didnā€™t happen, likeĀ ā€œbeing a better pilot than Hanā€.

On a ship she had literally never seen before in her life until she could pilot it BETTER than someone whoā€™s had it forever.Thatā€™s bullshit.



On a ship she had literally never seen before in her life 


You mean the ship that she explicitly calledĀ ā€œjunkā€? The one she says she advised against certain modifications for? The one owned by the Quarter Portion guy, who used to be her guardian, as we see in the flashback?
How does Rey fly the ship better than Han? Please, I havenā€™t seen a single piece of evidence for this in over two and a half years, but itā€™s treated as gospel.Ā 
Heck, he didnā€™t even ā€œhave it foreverā€, he lost it years, maybe decades ago.

Better than Han is less important than outflying two Ties on her first attempt.

Only due to home ground advantage, vs. two fighters designed mainly for space combat with horrible aerodynamics, and even then, she got Finnā€™s turret shot.
Also, sheā€™s all-but-explicitly shown to be using The Force. The dialogue draws attention to the fact that sheā€™s flying better than she expects.

ā€˜somebody did a thing that is entirely understandable given the context of the prior movies and the actual text of the movie at hand. But for some reason I missed these obvious things so yarrr!ā€™


No I fully accept the explanations for it. I still think it was poorly done and added to Reyā€™s perception as a Mary Sue who faces no real challenges and succeeds at everything.
That thereā€™s an explanation for what sheā€™s doing and how sheā€™s doing it doesnā€™t change that I and many people think she shouldnā€™t be doing it in the first place.

So, shedloads of people apparently ignored or missed the clear on-screen evidence to complain about this aspect of the movie, but itā€™s still the movieā€™s fault that theyā€™re wrong, even when theyā€™re making claims which they could not have reasonably arrived at (EG Reyā€™s a better pilot than Han.), and the only possible explanation isĀ ā€œfandom misconceptionsā€?

just because she succeeded (lived) doesnā€™t mean Rey herself experienced these things as ā€˜easyā€™. how many movies out there does the hero do something unexpectedly and benefit from the results? like maybe all of them? movies would be boring if characters are powerless the entire time until the exact one moment they need to win. they need to succeed and stumble a little bit along the way. little wins and little losses until the end. if she got her arm cut off, would that remove peopleā€™s mary sue label?

Thing is, people ignore the actual struggles she went through just because they have a Narrative. She didnā€™t just beat Kylo, he knocked her out pretty much instantly, and then Fin bought her time, and then she temporarily forced Ben back (IIRC, the book says she tapped into the Dark Side). We donā€™t even know if he wouldā€™ve been able to win if he got up, or even if he could get up. And this was while Kylo was bleeding out from a high-powered weapon, which the movie takes pain to remind us of.
But the fanbase acts like Rey apparently beat Ben with one hand tied behind her back, wearing a blindfold, while suffering from some hideous space-combination of Avian Flu and Ebola Zaire.

Iā€™m so glad Iā€™m not crazy. I thought I was the only one in the more conservative camp that doesnā€™t agree that Rey is a Mary Sue. There is lots of in-text explanation for why she excels at certain things as well as the time honored ā€œbecause the Forceā€œ answer which has applied to a lot of characters besides her. And she absolutely does have struggles even if they are primarily in emotional conflict and wrestling with her untapped strength and insecurities about her origins. These are what make the character. Calling the whole character a Mary Sue because ā€œshe fight too goodā€œ is kind of asinine. And donā€™t get me started on how they bitch about her beating Kylo and forget that he was mortally wounded at the time, and bitch about her knowing something about the Millennium Falcon and mechanical engineering despite the fact that she was A PROFESSIONAL JUNKER and the ship had been on her planet probably most of her life giving her plenty of time to explore it.
But yeah pretending that only the minority actors/actresses get harrassed is bullshit.


Rey is 100% a Mary Sue. No training yet managed to beat Kylo Ren, flew a ship across space despite no experience, etc.
@rockyrz did you read literally one word from the post above you or are you just gonna keep shouting ā€œsheā€™s a Mary Sue!ā€œ and ignore all evidence to the contrary?ā€œManaged to beat Kylo Renā€BECAUSE HE WAS FUCKING MORTALLY WOUNDED.ā€œflew a ship across spaceā€BECAUSE SHE HAD JUST STATED SHE WAS A PILOT.Like seriously itā€™s fine if you donā€™t like the movie but you seem kind of dumb if you just straight up ignore the evidence even itā€™s right in front of your face so you can keep saying the same thing over and over.
    

        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
    

    

        

            
            

                
                Adam Driver, Anaconda, and Apparently: Sean T. Collins
 Follow
 @theseantcollins
 weird that the person they went after
 from Ghostbusters was Leslie Jones.
 weird that the person they went after
 from Star Wars was Kelly Marie Tran.
 what on earth could explain this
 5:29 AM 5 Jun 2018
 7,482 Retweets 31,087 Likes
rockyrz:
libertarirynn:


siryouarebeingmocked:

grumpy-goompa:

siryouarebeingmocked:

skeleton-jack:

cookingwithroxy:

siryouarebeingmocked:

derpomatic:

siryouarebeingmocked:

theunnamedstranger:

siryouarebeingmocked:

theindependentconservative:

siryouarebeingmocked:

friendly-neighborhood-ehrhardt:

triggeredmedia:
Bad acting and bad characters?
other actors in those movies/franchises got shit from trolls too.
melissa mccarthy. hayden christiansen. jake lloyd. laura dern.
the difference is that all these media outlets didnt declare it a public crises  keep reporting on it months after it was news.
Ā in fact, jake lloyd probably got it worse than anyone, being an actual child at the time  being traumatized for years because of bullying, but no one cared at the time  now it only gets brought up as a tacked on example when talking about those awful modern star wars fans.  hes a straight white man. what on earth could explain this?
 in leslie jones case, she turned it into an internet slap fight  drew much more attention to her when before that she was getting no more shit than the other leads.
look, we should always separate the actor from their role  people who attack an actor personally for a role are scumbags, but stop injecting racism  sexism into everything  then using it as a shield against actual valid criticism.

Not to mention Adam Driver. Heā€™s still getting crapped on. People complained that he was playing a Jewish guy infiltrating the Klan in a historical Spike Lee movie, even though he isnā€™t Jewish, which is apparently Not Allowed.
These are popular franchises. If a fraction of a percent of their fans are knob-ends who harass people, that would seem overwhelming to the person on the receiving end.

Not to mention Reyā€™s a Mary Sure now and everyone called it.

You do remember that I disagree with the majority opinion, right?
Also, people were calling her a Mary Sue from the first movie. Sometimes based on things that literally didnā€™t happen, likeĀ ā€œbeing a better pilot than Hanā€.

On a ship she had literally never seen before in her life until she could pilot it BETTER than someone whoā€™s had it forever.Thatā€™s bullshit.



On a ship she had literally never seen before in her life 


You mean the ship that she explicitly calledĀ ā€œjunkā€? The one she says she advised against certain modifications for? The one owned by the Quarter Portion guy, who used to be her guardian, as we see in the flashback?
How does Rey fly the ship better than Han? Please, I havenā€™t seen a single piece of evidence for this in over two and a half years, but itā€™s treated as gospel.Ā 
Heck, he didnā€™t even ā€œhave it foreverā€, he lost it years, maybe decades ago.

Better than Han is less important than outflying two Ties on her first attempt.

Only due to home ground advantage, vs. two fighters designed mainly for space combat with horrible aerodynamics, and even then, she got Finnā€™s turret shot.
Also, sheā€™s all-but-explicitly shown to be using The Force. The dialogue draws attention to the fact that sheā€™s flying better than she expects.

ā€˜somebody did a thing that is entirely understandable given the context of the prior movies and the actual text of the movie at hand. But for some reason I missed these obvious things so yarrr!ā€™


No I fully accept the explanations for it. I still think it was poorly done and added to Reyā€™s perception as a Mary Sue who faces no real challenges and succeeds at everything.
That thereā€™s an explanation for what sheā€™s doing and how sheā€™s doing it doesnā€™t change that I and many people think she shouldnā€™t be doing it in the first place.

So, shedloads of people apparently ignored or missed the clear on-screen evidence to complain about this aspect of the movie, but itā€™s still the movieā€™s fault that theyā€™re wrong, even when theyā€™re making claims which they could not have reasonably arrived at (EG Reyā€™s a better pilot than Han.), and the only possible explanation isĀ ā€œfandom misconceptionsā€?

just because she succeeded (lived) doesnā€™t mean Rey herself experienced these things as ā€˜easyā€™. how many movies out there does the hero do something unexpectedly and benefit from the results? like maybe all of them? movies would be boring if characters are powerless the entire time until the exact one moment they need to win. they need to succeed and stumble a little bit along the way. little wins and little losses until the end. if she got her arm cut off, would that remove peopleā€™s mary sue label?

Thing is, people ignore the actual struggles she went through just because they have a Narrative. She didnā€™t just beat Kylo, he knocked her out pretty much instantly, and then Fin bought her time, and then she temporarily forced Ben back (IIRC, the book says she tapped into the Dark Side). We donā€™t even know if he wouldā€™ve been able to win if he got up, or even if he could get up. And this was while Kylo was bleeding out from a high-powered weapon, which the movie takes pain to remind us of.
But the fanbase acts like Rey apparently beat Ben with one hand tied behind her back, wearing a blindfold, while suffering from some hideous space-combination of Avian Flu and Ebola Zaire.

Iā€™m so glad Iā€™m not crazy. I thought I was the only one in the more conservative camp that doesnā€™t agree that Rey is a Mary Sue. There is lots of in-text explanation for why she excels at certain things as well as the time honored ā€œbecause the Forceā€œ answer which has applied to a lot of characters besides her. And she absolutely does have struggles even if they are primarily in emotional conflict and wrestling with her untapped strength and insecurities about her origins. These are what make the character. Calling the whole character a Mary Sue because ā€œshe fight too goodā€œ is kind of asinine. And donā€™t get me started on how they bitch about her beating Kylo and forget that he was mortally wounded at the time, and bitch about her knowing something about the Millennium Falcon and mechanical engineering despite the fact that she was A PROFESSIONAL JUNKER and the ship had been on her planet probably most of her life giving her plenty of time to explore it.
But yeah pretending that only the minority actors/actresses get harrassed is bullshit.


Rey is 100% a Mary Sue. No training yet managed to beat Kylo Ren, flew a ship across space despite no experience, etc.
@rockyrz did you read literally one word from the post above you or are you just gonna keep shouting ā€œsheā€™s a Mary Sue!ā€œ and ignore all evidence to the contrary?ā€œManaged to beat Kylo Renā€BECAUSE HE WAS FUCKING MORTALLY WOUNDED.ā€œflew a ship across spaceā€BECAUSE SHE HAD JUST STATED SHE WAS A PILOT.Like seriously itā€™s fine if you donā€™t like the movie but you seem kind of dumb if you just straight up ignore the evidence even itā€™s right in front of your face so you can keep saying the same thing over and over.
                
            

            
            
rockyrz:
libertarirynn:


siryouarebeingmocked:

grumpy-goompa:

siryouarebeingmocked:

skeleton-jack:

cookingwithroxy:

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    Adam Driver, Apparently, and Bad: Sean T. Collins
 Follow
 @theseantcollins
 weird that the person they went after
 from Ghostbusters was Leslie Jones.
 weird that the person they went after
 from Star Wars was Kelly Marie Tran.
 what on earth could explain this
 5:29 AM 5 Jun 2018
 7,482 Retweets 31,087 Likes
siryouarebeingmocked:
grumpy-goompa:

siryouarebeingmocked:

skeleton-jack:

cookingwithroxy:

siryouarebeingmocked:

derpomatic:

siryouarebeingmocked:

theunnamedstranger:

siryouarebeingmocked:

theindependentconservative:

siryouarebeingmocked:

friendly-neighborhood-ehrhardt:

triggeredmedia:
Bad acting and bad characters?
other actors in those movies/franchises got shit from trolls too.
melissa mccarthy. hayden christiansen. jake lloyd. laura dern.
the difference is that all these media outlets didnt declare it a public crises  keep reporting on it months after it was news.
Ā in fact, jake lloyd probably got it worse than anyone, being an actual child at the time  being traumatized for years because of bullying, but no one cared at the time  now it only gets brought up as a tacked on example when talking about those awful modern star wars fans.  hes a straight white man. what on earth could explain this?
 in leslie jones case, she turned it into an internet slap fight  drew much more attention to her when before that she was getting no more shit than the other leads.
look, we should always separate the actor from their role  people who attack an actor personally for a role are scumbags, but stop injecting racism  sexism into everything  then using it as a shield against actual valid criticism.

Not to mention Adam Driver. Heā€™s still getting crapped on. People complained that he was playing a Jewish guy infiltrating the Klan in a historical Spike Lee movie, even though he isnā€™t Jewish, which is apparently Not Allowed.
These are popular franchises. If a fraction of a percent of their fans are knob-ends who harass people, that would seem overwhelming to the person on the receiving end.

Not to mention Reyā€™s a Mary Sure now and everyone called it.

You do remember that I disagree with the majority opinion, right?
Also, people were calling her a Mary Sue from the first movie. Sometimes based on things that literally didnā€™t happen, likeĀ ā€œbeing a better pilot than Hanā€.

On a ship she had literally never seen before in her life until she could pilot it BETTER than someone whoā€™s had it forever.Thatā€™s bullshit.



On a ship she had literally never seen before in her life 


You mean the ship that she explicitly calledĀ ā€œjunkā€? The one she says she advised against certain modifications for? The one owned by the Quarter Portion guy, who used to be her guardian, as we see in the flashback?
How does Rey fly the ship better than Han? Please, I havenā€™t seen a single piece of evidence for this in over two and a half years, but itā€™s treated as gospel.Ā 
Heck, he didnā€™t even ā€œhave it foreverā€, he lost it years, maybe decades ago.

Better than Han is less important than outflying two Ties on her first attempt.

Only due to home ground advantage, vs. two fighters designed mainly for space combat with horrible aerodynamics, and even then, she got Finnā€™s turret shot.
Also, sheā€™s all-but-explicitly shown to be using The Force. The dialogue draws attention to the fact that sheā€™s flying better than she expects.

ā€˜somebody did a thing that is entirely understandable given the context of the prior movies and the actual text of the movie at hand. But for some reason I missed these obvious things so yarrr!ā€™


No I fully accept the explanations for it. I still think it was poorly done and added to Reyā€™s perception as a Mary Sue who faces no real challenges and succeeds at everything.
That thereā€™s an explanation for what sheā€™s doing and how sheā€™s doing it doesnā€™t change that I and many people think she shouldnā€™t be doing it in the first place.

So, shedloads of people apparently ignored or missed the clear on-screen evidence to complain about this aspect of the movie, but itā€™s still the movieā€™s fault that theyā€™re wrong, even when theyā€™re making claims which they could not have reasonably arrived at (EG Reyā€™s a better pilot than Han.), and the only possible explanation isĀ ā€œfandom misconceptionsā€?

just because she succeeded (lived) doesnā€™t mean Rey herself experienced these things as ā€˜easyā€™. how many movies out there does the hero do something unexpectedly and benefit from the results? like maybe all of them? movies would be boring if characters are powerless the entire time until the exact one moment they need to win. they need to succeed and stumble a little bit along the way. little wins and little losses until the end. if she got her arm cut off, would that remove peopleā€™s mary sue label?

Thing is, people ignore the actual struggles she went through just because they have a Narrative. She didnā€™t just beat Kylo, he knocked her out pretty much instantly, and then Fin bought her time, and then she temporarily forced Ben back (IIRC, the book says she tapped into the Dark Side). We donā€™t even know if he wouldā€™ve been able to win if he got up, or even if he could get up. And this was while Kylo was bleeding out from a high-powered weapon, which the movie takes pain to remind us of.
But the fanbase acts like Rey apparently beat Ben with one hand tied behind her back, wearing a blindfold, while suffering from some hideous space-combination of Avian Flu and Ebola Zaire.
Iā€™m so glad Iā€™m not crazy. I thought I was the only one in the more conservative camp that doesnā€™t agree that Rey is a Mary Sue. There is lots of in-text explanation for why she excels at certain things as well as the time honored ā€œbecause the Forceā€œ answer which has applied to a lot of characters besides her. And she absolutely does have struggles even if they are primarily in emotional conflict and wrestling with her untapped strength and insecurities about her origins. These are what make the character. Calling the whole character a Mary Sue because ā€œshe fight too goodā€œ is kind of asinine. And donā€™t get me started on how they bitch about her beating Kylo and forget that he was mortally wounded at the time, and bitch about her knowing something about the Millennium Falcon and mechanical engineering despite the fact that she was A PROFESSIONAL JUNKER and the ship had been on her planet probably most of her life giving her plenty of time to explore it.But yeah pretending that only the minority actors/actresses get harrassed is bullshit.
    

        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
    

    

        

            
            

                
                Adam Driver, Apparently, and Bad: Sean T. Collins
 Follow
 @theseantcollins
 weird that the person they went after
 from Ghostbusters was Leslie Jones.
 weird that the person they went after
 from Star Wars was Kelly Marie Tran.
 what on earth could explain this
 5:29 AM 5 Jun 2018
 7,482 Retweets 31,087 Likes
siryouarebeingmocked:
grumpy-goompa:

siryouarebeingmocked:

skeleton-jack:

cookingwithroxy:

siryouarebeingmocked:

derpomatic:

siryouarebeingmocked:

theunnamedstranger:

siryouarebeingmocked:

theindependentconservative:

siryouarebeingmocked:

friendly-neighborhood-ehrhardt:

triggeredmedia:
Bad acting and bad characters?
other actors in those movies/franchises got shit from trolls too.
melissa mccarthy. hayden christiansen. jake lloyd. laura dern.
the difference is that all these media outlets didnt declare it a public crises  keep reporting on it months after it was news.
Ā in fact, jake lloyd probably got it worse than anyone, being an actual child at the time  being traumatized for years because of bullying, but no one cared at the time  now it only gets brought up as a tacked on example when talking about those awful modern star wars fans.  hes a straight white man. what on earth could explain this?
 in leslie jones case, she turned it into an internet slap fight  drew much more attention to her when before that she was getting no more shit than the other leads.
look, we should always separate the actor from their role  people who attack an actor personally for a role are scumbags, but stop injecting racism  sexism into everything  then using it as a shield against actual valid criticism.

Not to mention Adam Driver. Heā€™s still getting crapped on. People complained that he was playing a Jewish guy infiltrating the Klan in a historical Spike Lee movie, even though he isnā€™t Jewish, which is apparently Not Allowed.
These are popular franchises. If a fraction of a percent of their fans are knob-ends who harass people, that would seem overwhelming to the person on the receiving end.

Not to mention Reyā€™s a Mary Sure now and everyone called it.

You do remember that I disagree with the majority opinion, right?
Also, people were calling her a Mary Sue from the first movie. Sometimes based on things that literally didnā€™t happen, likeĀ ā€œbeing a better pilot than Hanā€.

On a ship she had literally never seen before in her life until she could pilot it BETTER than someone whoā€™s had it forever.Thatā€™s bullshit.



On a ship she had literally never seen before in her life 


You mean the ship that she explicitly calledĀ ā€œjunkā€? The one she says she advised against certain modifications for? The one owned by the Quarter Portion guy, who used to be her guardian, as we see in the flashback?
How does Rey fly the ship better than Han? Please, I havenā€™t seen a single piece of evidence for this in over two and a half years, but itā€™s treated as gospel.Ā 
Heck, he didnā€™t even ā€œhave it foreverā€, he lost it years, maybe decades ago.

Better than Han is less important than outflying two Ties on her first attempt.

Only due to home ground advantage, vs. two fighters designed mainly for space combat with horrible aerodynamics, and even then, she got Finnā€™s turret shot.
Also, sheā€™s all-but-explicitly shown to be using The Force. The dialogue draws attention to the fact that sheā€™s flying better than she expects.

ā€˜somebody did a thing that is entirely understandable given the context of the prior movies and the actual text of the movie at hand. But for some reason I missed these obvious things so yarrr!ā€™


No I fully accept the explanations for it. I still think it was poorly done and added to Reyā€™s perception as a Mary Sue who faces no real challenges and succeeds at everything.
That thereā€™s an explanation for what sheā€™s doing and how sheā€™s doing it doesnā€™t change that I and many people think she shouldnā€™t be doing it in the first place.

So, shedloads of people apparently ignored or missed the clear on-screen evidence to complain about this aspect of the movie, but itā€™s still the movieā€™s fault that theyā€™re wrong, even when theyā€™re making claims which they could not have reasonably arrived at (EG Reyā€™s a better pilot than Han.), and the only possible explanation isĀ ā€œfandom misconceptionsā€?

just because she succeeded (lived) doesnā€™t mean Rey herself experienced these things as ā€˜easyā€™. how many movies out there does the hero do something unexpectedly and benefit from the results? like maybe all of them? movies would be boring if characters are powerless the entire time until the exact one moment they need to win. they need to succeed and stumble a little bit along the way. little wins and little losses until the end. if she got her arm cut off, would that remove peopleā€™s mary sue label?

Thing is, people ignore the actual struggles she went through just because they have a Narrative. She didnā€™t just beat Kylo, he knocked her out pretty much instantly, and then Fin bought her time, and then she temporarily forced Ben back (IIRC, the book says she tapped into the Dark Side). We donā€™t even know if he wouldā€™ve been able to win if he got up, or even if he could get up. And this was while Kylo was bleeding out from a high-powered weapon, which the movie takes pain to remind us of.
But the fanbase acts like Rey apparently beat Ben with one hand tied behind her back, wearing a blindfold, while suffering from some hideous space-combination of Avian Flu and Ebola Zaire.
Iā€™m so glad Iā€™m not crazy. I thought I was the only one in the more conservative camp that doesnā€™t agree that Rey is a Mary Sue. There is lots of in-text explanation for why she excels at certain things as well as the time honored ā€œbecause the Forceā€œ answer which has applied to a lot of characters besides her. And she absolutely does have struggles even if they are primarily in emotional conflict and wrestling with her untapped strength and insecurities about her origins. These are what make the character. Calling the whole character a Mary Sue because ā€œshe fight too goodā€œ is kind of asinine. And donā€™t get me started on how they bitch about her beating Kylo and forget that he was mortally wounded at the time, and bitch about her knowing something about the Millennium Falcon and mechanical engineering despite the fact that she was A PROFESSIONAL JUNKER and the ship had been on her planet probably most of her life giving her plenty of time to explore it.But yeah pretending that only the minority actors/actresses get harrassed is bullshit.
                
            

            
            
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